On Tuesday afternoon I was sent an email by a home owner who has a problem to do with a glazing bead. Below is the email I was sent:
Just read your piece on external glazing bead and how its a security risk. I definitely agree as someone tried to gain access to my conservatory this week and removed the external bead from the lower window breaking it completely in the process.
Luckily they didn’t get all the way in but now my window is a total security red light. I have been looking on the web for hours but can’t find anywhere to get replacement external bead? I know I should probably replace the door itself but just can’t afford it.
I was wondering if you may know where may supply the bead? I have photos of the profile but just can’t get a start. Even if you could tell me which companies still do external bead? (It is an old conservatory though :( ) I can’t think of what else to do to make it look more secure?
Thanks for any help you can give.
I replied to the sender of the email and said that although my own knowledge on this particular product is limited, the industry readers of this site may be able to help out, and that I would post this email, as well as the images below, to see if you very kind people could help out a home owner in need!
Here are the images sent to me:
What is required is simple: what type of external bead is this? Is it still made, and if so, where can it be sourced?
The home owner gave me permission to write this post and I have informed them that once the post is live, I shall send them the link. If any of you lovely people have any help to give this home owner, please leave it in the comments section below. The home owner will be keeping an eye on this post and the comments area for any advice and help left by commenters.
Come on industry, this is an ideal opportunity to show a home owner that our industry, often slated as sleazy and corrupt, is actually helpful and accommodating! Get your comments in via the comment area below!
im not 100% but it looks like some old LB Sheerframe bead..
Might be worth the person in question hunting for places that sell used frames.. There is a place in Coventry which is nicknamed “the window graveyard” I used to take a walk round there until I found what I wanted. Can’t remember the name of the place but it’s on Holbrook lane, Coventry, CV6. Alternatively, send the picture to Sheerframe and get them to check their archives. They maybe able to identify but may not have stock as it is super old stuff.
Could b worth going to a local window company and ask them if u could look in the old frames for a piece of bead long shot but might find a piece
Sorry to hear that person has suffered this attempted break in. Not all external beaded systems are so easy to deglaze, some have a leg that goes under the glass and others can have glass locks fitted, a local glazier should be able to do, parts are sold by http://www.gtwindowproducts.co.uk. Which will upgrade the security.
The bead will be hard to find if original supplier is not known, some profiles did have name stamped in before line printing and or a code which we may be able to help with.
In terms of ensuring this window is secure whilst the bead is being hunted down, our Product Manager had a suggestion….. “On externally glazed systems it is common to use security glazing tape and bond the glass to inside leg of the profile, not the bead, then even when the bead has been removed the glass can’t be removed without smashing it. To do this you would need to de-glaze and apply tape then re-glaze. I would suggest only an experienced tradesmen do this though. Has the customer checked whether security tape has been used on the inside? I can’t… Read more »
As Sarah suggests , using the correct thickness of double sided glazing tape is the best way to ensure security with external glazing , but , unfortunately I gave up trying to source beads from old windows long ago , it is nigh on impossible.
It might not sound like the advice he wanted , but a new window is the best way of sorting it, if he has insurance it should pay out for it.
T’hanks for your suggestions, I will investigate more fully. I have used some no more nails round it for now! I’d just like some sort of trim to make it look less ‘obvious’. I am Manchester ‘is’h area if anyone knows knows of any window/door graveyards up north :) Idea world its a new door i know – I will start trawling ebay. Any new ideas appreciated, thanks
I can’t get the beads in against triple glazed units, the frames are Eurocell
Just found a website that does UPVC glazing beads.
Also I believe you will find that there is a clip that can be inserted & screwed to the frame that helps prevent the glass panel being removed if the beading is removed.
Just another activity they need to complete to get the window out.
Cap the screws with adhesive to make it difficult to unscrew if youre not prepared.
Hi, I’ve been having a similar problem sourcing the same profile beading. The link given does not do this type. In my searches it has been mentioned that this type of beading is called “shuffle” beading, I cannot confirm that this is correct but it’s a starting point. Hope it helps.
Clean the beads and glazing bead area up thoroughly then simply glue the beads back into location
We had a similar issue recently with someone breaking into our property by removing the beading and glass to gain entry. Following this we were like yourselves, worried about it happening again. We ended up replacing our door and windows from http://www.windowsplusonline.co.uk that were really reasonably priced and provide windows and doors with internal beading which gave us that added security. The upgrade gave us piece of mind and our new windows and door look great too! Definitely recommend to get a quote.